Re: Inactive and Active date stamp editing

From: Carsten Dominik <dominik@uva.nl>
To: Chris Randle <chris@amlog.co.uk>
Cc: 'org-mode' <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Inactive and Active date stamp editing
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:56:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1CCF6A65-9997-4DC8-9F2B-CFF15C1ED6E4@uva.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B911020762E24261847E67E341F68664@CUBE>

Hi Chris,

I have fixed issue 1 and 2, but I think 3 I will leave alone.  It is  
purely cosmetic, and Org asks for a date/time in so many places that  
it would be a lot or work to always pass that information.  The only  
thing I might consider is to remove the brackets alltogether in the  
live display of the read-date interface.  But then< I do not think  
this is really relevant.

- Carsten

On Sep 30, 2008, at 10:10 AM, Chris Randle wrote:

> Hi Carsten
>
> If I have an active date stamp and put my cursor in it and type `C- 
> c . .
> [RET]', this happens:
>
> <2008-09-27 Sat> => <2008-09-30 Tue>
>
> If I do a similar operation in an inactive stamp with either `C-c . .'
> or `C-c ! . [RET]', I get
>
> [2008-09-27 Sat] => [2008-09-27 Sa[2008-09-30 Tue]t]
>
> A quick test shows a similar "corruption" behaviour doing `C-c ! .' on
> an active date stamp, e.g.
>
> <2008-09-27 Sat> => <2008-09-27 Sa[2008-09-30 Tue]t>
>
> Could the Date+time editor be made to update inactive date stamps in  
> the
> same way as active? Also, I'd like it that `C-c .' on an inactive  
> stamp
> converts it to active after the edit and `C-c !' leaves it as  
> inactive;
> and similarly, that actives are converted to inactives using `C-c !'.
>
> One could argue that a mismatched `C-c .' on an inactive date stamp or
> `C-c !' on an active date stamp shouldn't edit them, but just insert
> another date stamp of the different kind, but I cannot think of a
> situation where one would insert a date stamp inside another.
>
> Regardless of the above conversion behaviour, if `C-c .' edits an  
> active
> date stamp, I'd expect `C-c !' to edit an inactive date stamp.
>
> One tiny cosmetic niggle on a similar vein: when invoking the Date 
> +time
> editor, it always shows its expected output as an active stamp, even  
> if
> invoked with `C-c !'.
>
> Is there a reason for the existing behaviour? If not, please could you
> consider implementing these two/three suggested changes: 1) editing
> inactive date stamps, and 2) converting type during edit if invoked  
> with
> opposite keystrokes (if you see what I mean)? And perhaps if it's a
> trivial tidy up, 3) the Date+time editor could show <> or [], as
> appropriate, around its intended output.
>
> Many thanks as always.
>
> -- 
> Chris Randle
> Windows XP SP3 - GNU Emacs 22.1.1 - Org-mode 6.07b
>
>
>
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