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Januar 2023, 12:46:38 CET schrieb Max Nikulin: > On 23/01/2023 01:47, AW wrote: > >> We could support mid: is the corresponding url schema existed and > >> supported by various OSes. > >=20 > > Isn't this rather important? How many users of orgmode get TODOs via > > E-Mail > > and need an efficient way to come back from the TODO to its origin? >=20 > I agree that linking mail messages and Org notes is important. On the > other hand my impression is that the "mid:" URI protocol is not adopted > wide enough by mail user agents yet, so it is too early to enable it by > default in Org. >=20 > Configuring of "mid:" links requires just a few lines in init.el and > they are quite usual for custom links. >=20 > Alexander, you have tried 2 mail application and it seems neither of > them supports "mid:" links out of the box. Notmuch looks almost ready, > it needs just a .desktop file and configuring `browse-url-handlers' on > activation. Have you checked if kmail bug tracker has a feature request > for "mid:" links? I am not sure that KDE bug trackers are indexed by > search engines. I have done that now without result. But I'll write an E-Mail to the=20 developers of kmail.=20 >=20 > From the blog post by Karl Voit I have an impression that developers of > Evolution do not follow RFC since posted command example contains angle > brackets (mid:<...@...>). Such format causes "not found" error in > Thunderbird. >=20 > On 23/01/2023 17:40, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > > I am not even sure if we need to make Org open mid: links via > > `browse-url'. Maybe it should be something else? IDK. >=20 > Do you know an alternative? Org already uses this package to open some > types of links. It allows to have the same handler for all Emacs > packages. I do not think that Org-specific handler would be better. As long as notmuch, notmuch.el and ol-notmuch are there we have a viable=20 solution, thanks to this (undocumented) trick with notmuch:id:123abc, after= =20 getting the id by opening the mail with notmuch in emacs and =BBc I=AB.=20 Thank you for your time and effort! =2D-=20 Regards, Alexander