Re: feature request: additional org/remember template escapes:

From: "T. V. Raman" <raman@users.sf.net>
To: dominik@science.uva.nl
Cc: raman@users.sf.net, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: feature request: additional org/remember template escapes:
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:13:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18140.20150.111452.383630@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a47d9bae913411cd5ebf3268c0f54af8@science.uva.nl>

Yes,  your suggested replacement for the message would be
clearer.
And thanks for the new template, org/remember is an amazing piece
of work.

>>>>> "Carsten" == Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
    Carsten> On Sep 1, 2007, at 6:32, T. V. Raman wrote:
    Carsten> 
    >> I've been using org with remember as my "Web Notebook" for
    >> the last 18 months.
    >> 
    >> I browse exclusively from Emacs as an emacspeak user (w3
    >> and W3M) and this is an incredibly useful thing to have.
    >> 
    >> The one thing that prevents me from completely satisfied
    >> is the set of available template escapes -- based on what
    >> is possible, entries end up looking like:
    >> 
    >> ** [[URL]] note
    >> 
    >> where "note" is what I typed in the remember buffer.
    >> 
    >> Ideally I'd like the above to be :
    >> 
    >> ** [[URL][Note]]
    >> 
    Carsten> 

Starting with 5.08, you will be able to use %A in the template.
    Carsten> It will insert the link, but explicitly prompt you
    Carsten> for the link description.
    Carsten> 
    >> or even better, have the entry go in as a bullet rather
    >> than a section header.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> This is hard, because the whole note insertion of
    Carsten> remember notes is based on the outline structure.
    Carsten> No action for now.
    Carsten> 
    >> Finally, I have never understood what the "inserted at
    >> level n shifted by m" message means, could we come up with
    >> better wording? I feel uneasy criticizing without a better
    >> suggestion, but I dont understand what it means fully, and
    >> am consequently reluctant to hazard at a better phrase.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> A remember note is an outline entry, i.e. it has a
    Carsten> first line with one or many stars.  Notes are
    Carsten> inserted into the existing outline structure using
    Carsten> the command org-paste-subtree.  The command is
    Carsten> clever about adjusting the outline level of the
    Carsten> inserted subtree, so that it correctly fits into the
    Carsten> local hierarchy.  And to make sure the user
    Carsten> understands what just happened, it tells the user
    Carsten> what the new outline level of the inserted item is,
    Carsten> if it hat to be shifted (i.e. promoted or demoted
    Carsten> but removing or adding stars) to get there.  At the
    Carsten> time of implementation this was more of a debugging
    Carsten> feedback than anything else.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> I guess this is reasonably useful feedback when
    Carsten> using the pasting commands explicitly, in an
    Carsten> interactive way.  We could turn off the message in
    Carsten> non-interactive use like this (during remember
    Carsten> filing note storing).
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> For interactive use, how about the simpler:
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> "Clipboard pasted as level N subtree"
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> Would that be clearer?
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> - Carsten
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> -- Carsten Dominik Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton
    Carsten> Pannekoek" Universiteit van Amsterdam Kruislaan 403
    Carsten> NL-1098SJ Amsterdam phone: +31 20 525 7477
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> 
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