* Orgmode keybindings in Dired?
@ 2024-08-22 18:27 Kepa
2024-08-23 12:51 ` Fraga, Eric
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From: Kepa @ 2024-08-22 18:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
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Hi
I'm starting to use Dired and I like it.
I would like to know your opinion, fellow orgmode users about keybindings in Dired:
Is it worth modifying Dired's keybindings to match those of Org-mode? Could it have any side effect?
Any specific advice?
Has this configuration already been shared? I assume someone else must have thought of this before...
Best regards!
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* Re: Orgmode keybindings in Dired?
2024-08-22 18:27 Kepa
@ 2024-08-23 12:51 ` Fraga, Eric
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From: Fraga, Eric @ 2024-08-23 12:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kepa; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Response below/inline for email Kepa wrote:
> (original email sent 22 Aug 2024 at 18:27)
> I'm starting to use Dired and I like it.
dired is an excellent tool!
> I would like to know your opinion, fellow orgmode users about
> keybindings in Dired:
> Is it worth modifying Dired's keybindings to match those of Org-mode?
What exactly are you imagining? org mode keybindings make sense within
an org file. I'm not sure what you expect to do in a dired buffer that
would use org mode keybindings?
Having said that, I do use org-store-link (globally bound to C-c l) all
the time in dired buffers.
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: Eric S Fraga, with org 9.7.10-5ebd97 in Emacs 31.0.50
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* RE: Orgmode keybindings in Dired?
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@ 2024-08-23 14:40 ` Kepa
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From: Kepa @ 2024-08-23 14:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mbork, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Hi Marcin!
Below I shared some ideas
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> To: Kepa <gnu.cognition199@slmails.com>
> Subject: Re: Orgmode keybindings in Dired?
>
> On 2024-08-22, at 18:27, Kepa <gnu.cognition199@slmails.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I'm starting to use Dired and I like it.
> > I would like to know your opinion, fellow orgmode users about keybindings
> in Dired:
> > Is it worth modifying Dired's keybindings to match those of Org-mode?
> Could it have any side effect?
> > Any specific advice?
> >
> > Has this configuration already been shared? I assume someone else must
> have thought of this before...
>
> Which keybindings do you mean exactly? Dired's keybindings are usually
> consistent with the rest of Emacs (and most of them predate Org mode, I
> believe), so one would need to be quite careful not to introduce any
> inconsistencies.
Examples:
w to (dired-do-rename), instead of R, like refile speedkey.
o to (browse-url-of-dired-file), instead of W, like org-open-at-point speedkey.
M-RET to (dired-create-directory), instead of +.
And maybe other org speedkeys.
Although I have found that using dired-subtree gives naturally this oportunity. Here some examples (I must change "u" keybinding, since it is used to unmark files, maybe I could use C-g to unmark files, could it be risky?
;; Bind 'TAB' to toggle subtree visibility (cycle through subdirectories)
(with-eval-after-load 'dired
(define-key dired-mode-map (kbd "TAB") 'dired-subtree-cycle))
;; (org-speed-move-safe 'outline-up-heading) (similar to 'u' in Org-mode for dired-subtree-up)
(define-key dired-mode-map (kbd "u") 'dired-subtree-up)
;; Bind 's' to narrow the view to the current subdirectory
(define-key dired-mode-map (kbd "s") 'dired-subtree-narrow)
>
> Best,
>
> --
> Marcin Borkowski
> https://mbork.pl
> https://crimsonelevendelightpetrichor.net/
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* Re: Orgmode keybindings in Dired?
@ 2024-08-24 23:22 Kepa
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From: Kepa @ 2024-08-24 23:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
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> From: Fraga, Eric
> Subject: Re: Orgmode keybindings in Dired?
> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2024 12:51:32 +0000
> User-agent: gnus (Emacs 31.0.50)
>
> Response below/inline for email Kepa wrote:
> > (original email sent 22 Aug 2024 at 18:27)
> > I'm starting to use Dired and I like it.
>
> dired is an excellent tool!
>
> > I would like to know your opinion, fellow orgmode users about
> > keybindings in Dired:
> > Is it worth modifying Dired's keybindings to match those of Org-mode?
>
> What exactly are you imagining? org mode keybindings make sense within
> an org file. I'm not sure what you expect to do in a dired buffer that
> would use org mode keybindings?
>
> Having said that, I do use org-store-link (globally bound to C-c l) all
> the time in dired buffers.
>
> --
> : Eric S Fraga, with org 9.7.10-5ebd97 in Emacs 31.0.50
By the way, Eric, thanks for your tip. I probably wouldn't found that
org-store-link can be used in Dired. Combined with org-super-links and
org-open-at-point, it makes it joyful.
You asked about what was I imagining, so I will share the configuration
I have finished with (by now).
My imagination goes beyond, though, like using "r" and "l" to "move"
subdirectories one level down or up. Although maybe I would never use
it. As said, the keybindings I am using in Dired, inspired many of them
by org-mode keybindings:
;; Bind 'TAB' to toggle subtree visibility (cycle through subdirectories)
(with-eval-after-load 'dired
(define-key dired-mode-map (kbd "TAB") 'dired-subtree-cycle))
;; Create a new directory (similar to 'M-RET' in Org-mode)
;; Existing Dired keybinding: '+' is used for 'dired-create-directory'
;; New keybinding: 'M-RET'
(define-key dired-mode-map (kbd "M-RET") 'dired-create-directory)
;; (org-speed-move-safe 'outline-up-heading) (similar to 'u' in Org-mode
for dired-subtree-up)
;; Existing Dired keybinding: 'u' for dired-unmark
(define-key dired-mode-map (kbd "u") 'dired-subtree-up)
;; Bind 's' to narrow the view to the current subdirectory
(define-key dired-mode-map (kbd "s") 'dired-subtree-narrow)
(define-key dired-mode-map (kbd "U") 'dired-unmark)
(define-key dired-mode-map (kbd "C-g") 'dired-unmark-all-marks)
(define-key dired-mode-map (kbd "N") 'dired-next-line)
(define-key dired-mode-map (kbd "C-<return>") 'dired-w32explore)
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