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However, I find > org-mouse is automatically loaded if I call describe-function and then > tab complete after typing "", "org-", "org-m", etc. This seems enough > to load the entirely of the org-mouse.el file. i'm also not an expert on autoload, but i noticed this in the e-lisp info pages: ---- Autoload by Prefix During completion for the commands =E2=80=98describe-variable=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98describe-function=E2=80=99, Emacs will try to load files which may= contain definitions matching the prefix being completed. ---- and, i wonder if that at least explains part of your question. cheers, Greg