emacs-orgmode@gnu.org archives
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: "Samuel Banya" <sbanya@fastmail.com>
To: "Charles Berry" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: C-c C-, in a terminal?
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 01:24:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0e4ca02c-2bad-4c16-9b41-4aa3933af0c0@www.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tues1afe.fsf@gmail.com>

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3417 bytes --]

Hey Annsi,

Awesome reply, just was lurking in this thread, and wanted to actually provide a link to what you mentioned since it looks like a cool package I might even want to try as well:
- https://melpa.org/#/free-keys

Reason being is that I actually wanted to explore running Emacs in purely a terminal setup since I actually don't use images that much compared to most people.

I know there are benefits to maybe inserting screenshots in notes, or viewing images via 'eww' but I don't really actually need it for my workflow, so running Emacs in 'xterm' or even something as heavy as Cool Retro Term sounds mega fun.

Anyway, didn't know about that package above, thanks for mentioning that one!

I also agree though that the exact replacement for the default keybinding is a hard topic.

I'm not sure if this helps, but I'm including a bunch of links I was able to research on this topic just in case this helps you out:
- https://aliquote.org/post/emacs-in-terminal/
- https://x86blog.com/emacs-an-ide-for-the-terminal/
- https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-best-way-to-use-Emacs-as-a-GUI-application-or-running-in-the-terminal?share=1
- https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/emacs-in-a-terminal-problems-with-ctrl-815964/
- https://github.com/purcell/exec-path-from-shell

Not sure if this totally relates, but since you're trying to use your terminal as an all-in-one, you might even want to check out 'Twin' as well since it can act as a Desktop Environment:
- https://github.com/cosmos72/twin

Sincerely,

Sam

On Tue, Dec 28, 2021, at 6:58 PM, Tim Cross wrote:
> 
> Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> writes:
> 
> > Hi all, while it's not an ORG mode question exactly, I have a problem
> > with org-insert-structure-template and it's default shortcut, C-c C-, in
> > terminals.
> >
> > As C-, isn't usually a control character in a terminal, terminals send
> > just the comma if I hit C-,. Some terminals (at least wsltty) do send
> > some kind of control sequence but I don't know if mapping other
> > terminals to do the same (Konsole and urxvt at least) and changing the
> > keys for Emacs makes sense. I'd have to do it for every terminal I ever
> > use.
> >
> > Alternatively, any suggestions for a more terminal friendly key
> > combination for org-insert-structure-template in Emacs?
> 
> It is almost impossible to suggest an alternative key binding because
> there are just too many variables involved. What you can use will depend
> on what window manager you use and the key shortcuts it uses (which will
> 'steal' keys before Emacs get to see them) and on the terminal emulator
> and the remote access protocol (i.e. ssh, telnet, tmux, screen etc) you
> use. Then there is differences depending on what Emacs packages you are
> using and what (if any) key bindings you have already defined and
> whether they are global or local definitions etc.
> 
> My suggestion would be to use something like the free-keys (available in
> melpa) package to identify what key bindings are available when in an
> org buffer and select one of those. It may also be worthwhile
> considering using something like hydra. You could define an org specific
> hydra and associate all your preferred bindings to that hydra. Org can
> be particularly challenging because it already has some complex key
> bindings, so avoiding unexpected side effects when adding/changing
> bindings can be a challenge. 
> 
> 
> 

[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 5055 bytes --]

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-29  6:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-28  8:25 Anssi Saari
2021-12-28 11:10 ` Vincent Breton
2021-12-28 23:58 ` Tim Cross
2021-12-29  6:24   ` Samuel Banya [this message]
2021-12-29 16:48 ` Max Nikulin

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: https://www.orgmode.org/

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=0e4ca02c-2bad-4c16-9b41-4aa3933af0c0@www.fastmail.com \
    --to=sbanya@fastmail.com \
    --cc=emacs-orgmode@gnu.org \
    --subject='Re: C-c C-, in a terminal?' \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link

Code repositories for project(s) associated with this inbox:

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).