From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= Subject: Re: [RFC] Change visibility for bracket links Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 10:56:43 -0400 Message-ID: <0a5cd7af-0655-2ed4-073c-d7ab54afd757@gmail.com> References: <87bmyyold3.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87fuo7bm5j.fsf@alphapapa.net> <11075f37-d56a-da83-dca7-f33b98001062@gmail.com> <87k2dgffvf.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="47HgT4tbmq1CuS8DDr2QCV0bnUTNqxbM5" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52526) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1btc0g-0007rC-N4 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2016 10:57:00 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1btc0b-0000Es-Kz for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2016 10:56:57 -0400 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.131]:57591) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1btc0b-0000DB-Ac for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2016 10:56:53 -0400 Received: from [18.189.6.80] ([18.189.6.80]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue005) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Ldqml-1bAcbZ2MxH-00j4tZ for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:56:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87k2dgffvf.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --47HgT4tbmq1CuS8DDr2QCV0bnUTNqxbM5 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="H6enElbKFKQMKEPB7hIjVs1bcqp6w1AGh"; protected-headers="v1" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Message-ID: <0a5cd7af-0655-2ed4-073c-d7ab54afd757@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [O] [RFC] Change visibility for bracket links References: <87bmyyold3.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87fuo7bm5j.fsf@alphapapa.net> <11075f37-d56a-da83-dca7-f33b98001062@gmail.com> <87k2dgffvf.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87k2dgffvf.fsf@gmail.com> --H6enElbKFKQMKEPB7hIjVs1bcqp6w1AGh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-10-10 10:17, Nick Dokos wrote: > Cl=C3=A9ment Pit--Claudel writes: >=20 >> On 2016-10-07 22:38, Adam Porter wrote: >>> I understand the motivation for making this change, but I respectfull= y >>> request that this be made configurable. I much prefer the "clean" li= nks >>> without visible brackets, and adding them would seem like a regressio= n >>> to me. I'm guessing that many current Org users would also prefer to= >>> keep the brackets invisible. >> >> Adam, what do you think of my earlier suggestion (displaying the >> brackets when the pointer is on them, hiding them otherwise? (In the >> style of prettify-symbols-mode with unprettify-symbol-at-point) >> >=20 > I don't particularly care whether the brackets are shown or not, but I > dislike things that change the visual appearance as you roll over > them.=20 Note that by pointer I meant point, not mouse; IOW, pointing on something= with your mouse would not change anything display-wise. I'm not sure what you meant by roll-over. > The web is full of such things and they drive me bananas: you > are trying to read something and you roll over something in the text > that changes its appearance, possibly shifting the text that you are > reading and leaving you to chase it around the page - good bye, > concentration. Even if you do it by just switching visibility on the > brackets, it's distracting when you are reading; it might be helpful > when composing but I'm not convinced even for that. Agreed. I'd be curious to get feedback from users of prettify-symbols-mo= de, too. And to know whether your objections apply as strongly to just r= evealing the brackets when the point is on them (not when they are being = moused over)=20 Cheers, Cl=C3=A9ment. --H6enElbKFKQMKEPB7hIjVs1bcqp6w1AGh-- --47HgT4tbmq1CuS8DDr2QCV0bnUTNqxbM5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJX+6wrAAoJEPqg+cTm90wjvOcQAKdV3hPeTRvBae3oS68Jkscc QOWZueJlcS4Fcf5YtXUdDl5yIwBcMoy9/l1okT4IhvjbFq4Uj7+wfu/b3Bm4R5Ms eNuQEjv9t6Gp3fW8Ub6qQLNyrZVLS4oKkOPrSze/txlZ4Q0Fakwhk7SYcVdqmi77 noyMw2At8IkO6FL7KaN7FZ2V4HdpG23X5FCExtAEgC1Z3yvqpvgeu8QnDWQlhzoE C3bYRR31adktoQUdeWY6v8s1nMfkbQiJfysAzxCXAmaK2WuwMpN/EsRj/BwV/Mnz qmmwjb65zrddyqNn0otO04tj/BrQCHShJeiCU5Kj9+gEBFVgkA9JdswJ+3tDSR7L WU74HoiO4iZw81XjohRVIl0/KvlhbXYTG/YLVS4m2sgdv0vxo9SsbkJGLtgxl6GU x7EzFVCea0/w/fji0OnJUK2i0ZIy2V/ElYbQu614U25etaTSLxd9+yYbtvS/A1d+ zWAIFowMiQH1pnEhfZZTClp8ees2f4o4Rlxny6lH04LpTwmrllH+SMoqXyHWuMSb FxORxez1Cl0Z7YFv+N/+NFj/i5Zy6QvZTIXulrbQXLCdSDtegg9b8vzsBXyg4pVA dqyU9RiV15mCLPoJBcUZ8SctNrw76IpN1bsJBirlNG0K/c3ygdwD8m39VXU0gM3x GKno6xbYh/xu/9NbskdF =z+Gc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --47HgT4tbmq1CuS8DDr2QCV0bnUTNqxbM5--