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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D36FD4500E X-Spam-Score: 0.40 X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 0.40 List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-TUID: sG2F5eLlKEl6 > On Mar 8, 2023, at 7:59 AM, Max Nikulin wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn 08/03/2023 07:29, Rob Sargent wrote: >>> LuaLaTeX may be instructed to use fallback fonts, see e.g. > ... >>> To my taste it is too low level. >> That I placed the unicode into the text was "too low level"? I could arg= ue that "it's a UTF doc", or that "\ding{55}" is bizarrely high level. Othe= r's have shown methods which maximize the cross export experience. I'll con= sider those. I'm not sure LuaLaTex is an option for me. >=20 > I would prefer to use Unicode symbols in UTF-8 encoded documents. While br= owsers and office software tries to find some substitution when some glyph i= s not available in requested font, configuration of LaTeX engines is more co= mplicated. Support of Unicode in LuaTeX is much better than in pdfTeX. Unfor= tunately for characters outside of ~latin-1 set, all fonts must be carefully= configured. I consider necessity to specify font per language and fallback f= onts as too low level operations for regular users. >=20 > I do not see a robust way to determine fonts available for LaTeX to implem= ent automatic configuration in ox-latex with reasonable amount of code. >=20 > I recommend to consider LuaLaTeX if you are going to use Unicode. Alternat= ives are PDF export through LibreOffice or through HTML and a browser. Thank you Max. Another vote for LuaTeX! And for Unicode.=20 rjs=