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From: Carsten Dominik <dominik@uva.nl>
To: Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk>
Cc: Emacs-orgmode mailing list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Release 6.33
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:30:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <025CD576-0BC4-4561-8771-B2F09809228B@uva.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vdhe1abc.fsf@stats.ox.ac.uk>


On Nov 13, 2009, at 8:41 PM, Dan Davison wrote:

> Carsten Dominik <dominik@uva.nl> writes:
>
>> On Nov 13, 2009, at 6:48 PM, Eric S Fraga wrote:
>>
>>> At Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:51:11 +0100,
>>> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>>>
>>>> here are the Changes in the latest release 6.33.  Emacs 23.2,  
>>>> when it
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> Speed commands at the start of a headline
>>>> ==========================================
>>>
>>> Excellent addition!  This makes org-mode even /more/ usable on  
>>> systems
>>> with very small keyboards (like smartphones etc).  I'd been using
>>> viper-mode to have single key movement in org-mode buffers but  
>>> you've
>>> not only made this possible but have completely exceeded my
>>> requirements through all the extra commands available (clocking in,
>>> etc.).  Fantastic!
>
>
> Me too, this looks great. I think it's going to have me learning  
> lots of
> org commands that I hadn't got round to learning before. My first
> questions:
>
> n   outline-next-visible-heading
> p   outline-previous-visible-heading
> f   org-forward-same-level
> b   org-backward-same-level
>
> It would be nice if I could keep tapping these, safe in the knowledge
> that I would remain within the world of speed-commands.

Hi Dan, this is an important point, and it now works like this.

> However, they
> can all 'fall off the edge' and start inserting characters. If that
> behaviour is critical to org-mode when calling the functions directly,
> is it nevertheless worth considering making the behaviour slightly
> different for speed commands? I.e. e.g. make 'n' refuse to do anything
> if there is no next visible heading. (I suppose that could be done  
> with
> new optional args to org-[f/b]-same-level (I don't know about
> outline-[n/p]-visible-heading; would that be a suitable situation for
> defadvice?))
>
> Secondly, is it worth considering expanding the speed-command zone to
> include any position in the leading asterisks (perhaps even in the  
> TODO
> keyword, seeing as this is non-default behaviour)?

Well, I am not comfortable with this, so I don't want to put
this in as a standard option.  But you can now set `org-use-speed- 
commands'
to a predicate function that tests for appropriate location.  Let us  
know
if you have a good one, maybe I will put it in anyway.

- Carsten

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-13 21:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-13  8:51 Release 6.33 Carsten Dominik
2009-11-13 15:19 ` Daniel Clemente
2009-11-13 17:48 ` Eric S Fraga
2009-11-13 18:42   ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-13 18:48   ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-13 19:16     ` Speed commands (was: Release 6.33) Stephan Schmitt
2009-11-13 19:30       ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-13 20:09         ` Speed commands Stephan Schmitt
2009-11-13 20:30           ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-14  5:03         ` Dan Davison
2009-11-14  7:51           ` Benjamin Andresen
2009-11-14 15:48             ` Dan Davison
2009-11-15  2:44           ` Dan Davison
2009-11-15 10:54             ` Benjamin Andresen
2009-11-15 13:27             ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-17 13:20             ` J. David Boyd
2009-11-17 14:44             ` J. David Boyd
2009-11-17 19:23               ` Dan Davison
2009-11-17 19:43                 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-18 15:09         ` Jason Dunsmore
2009-11-18 22:54           ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-20 14:35         ` Speed commands (was: Release 6.33) Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs
2009-11-20 14:57           ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-20 16:29             ` Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs
2009-11-20 20:55               ` Eric S Fraga
2009-11-20 17:09             ` Eric S Fraga
2009-11-20 17:09             ` Eric S Fraga
2009-11-20 18:13               ` Speed commands Stephan Schmitt
2009-11-20 20:36                 ` Eric S Fraga
2009-11-20 20:35           ` Speed commands (was: Release 6.33) Raffi R
2009-11-20 23:25             ` Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs
2009-11-20 23:38               ` Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs
2009-11-13 19:41     ` Release 6.33 Dan Davison
2009-11-13 21:30       ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2009-11-13 23:03 ` Sebastian Rose
2009-11-15  7:19   ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-15 10:02     ` Uwe Jochum
2009-11-15 13:27       ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-15 14:07         ` Uwe Jochum
2009-11-15 11:37     ` Sebastian Rose

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