Re: keeping track of sent emails in org?

From: Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>
To: Bill White <billw@wolfram.com>
Cc: Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: keeping track of sent emails in org?
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:58:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0127F599-13B2-4907-AF1C-5637B84367FF@uva.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871vy3tg9x.fsf@wolfram.com>

Hi,

I think there are interesting ideas coming up in this tasks, in  
particular the question if message IDs can be used to find articles in  
gnus, even if they have been moved around.  I am not sure if this  
questions has been fully answered, but I have not read the thread  
carefully enough yet, and certainly not tried Michaels code.

Right now I would like to take a little step back and understand  
better what the original poster is trying to do.

I can see that in an Emacs/Planner environment it makes sense to  
create links to sent emails on the days page.  The reason for this is  
that the planner day page is not only used for listing the planned  
tasks for the day, but also as a way of creating a daily journal.   
Sacha Chua's blog shows that she is using it just like that, and I  
think this is one of te unique and great features of planner.

However, the basic setup of Org is different.  There is no equivalent  
of a daily page.  The agenda views created by Org are dynamic and list  
tasks, and the tasks disappear when they are done.  Yes, you can look  
at the achievements of a day by checking closed tasks and log  
messages, but still this is no equivalent to the planner day pages  
which is a document that can be edited and preserved for the future.

Maybe you can create something similar with Org, but I think it is not  
straight forward.

On the other hand, every decent email program does have a SENT folder,  
and an easy way to list the emails sent on a specific date.

To me it seems that instead of creating a sequential list of links to  
emails for each day, it would be more interesting to create a way to  
collect links relating to a project or a task in the outline node of  
the project, or maybe in an attachment file of the project (if the  
list of emails is long).

Just my 5 cents.

- Carsten

On Oct 26, 2008, at 6:31 PM, Bill White wrote:

> Hi all -
>
> I'm looking into porting my planner/muse/gnus infrastructure to org.
> One indispensible bit of code in my current system writes a gnus  
> message
> link in the current day's planner file every time I send a message  
> from
> gnus.  It uses Sacha Chua's sacha/planner-gnus-track-sent method here:
>
> http://sachachua.com/notebook/wiki/2006.08.10.php#anchor-3
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.wiki.general/6017
>
> Has someone already written something like this for org?  Perhaps a
> remember-like mechanism that writes a link to, say, Email.org?   
> Perhaps
> messages could be filed under date headlines:
>
> * Sunday, October 26, 2008
> ** message 1 recipient:subject
> [link] (or contents?)
> ** message 2 recipient:subject
> [link] (or contents?)
>
> or somesuch.
>
> Thanks for any thoughts about this -
>
> bw
> -- 
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>
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